The Ellettsville, Indiana,
Topic
of Discussion: Parking, Loading and
Driveway Ordinance
Supervisors Present: Jim Davis, Jim Ragle and Ron McGlocklin.
Jeff York opened the discussion by stating since his hire date
of March 22nd he’s been on a fast track to get an amendment to the
zoning ordinance on parking because of the tremendous concern over parking
issues. He sent a first draft to the
Plan Commission in early April and after the second revision the Council passed
the ordinance. He’s been concerned there
wasn’t enough public input when constructing this ordinance, especially since
only a handful of individuals attended the Plan Commission meetings when working
on it. He believes it should have taken
longer to work on with more input. He’s
received numerous complaints about this ordinance complaining it is unfair in established
neighborhoods that were developed in the 1970’s which were constructed for
fewer vehicles per residence, specifically driveways lead up to a single
attached garage or drive. For example,
in the
·
Ordinance went
into effect in mid to late 90’s
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Parking of
vehicles must be on an improved surface.
An improved surface can be gravel, stone, asphalt or concrete
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Any property is
subject, regardless on when improvements like buildings were established, is
subject to prohibition of no lawn parking
·
Violations are
driven by complaints and then the inspector validity. Once confirmed, an “informational letter” is
sent. Informational letter informs the property
owner to be aware that such an ordinance exists and that they need to remove
the vehicle from the lawn
·
If no response, a
ticket is issued if another compliant is filed on same property, or, in a
reasonable amount of time
·
Very few tickets
are ever issued due to typical quick responses
·
These issues are
rarely sent to court since ticket is
only $25.00
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Sixty (60) days
are given to comply once ticket is issued
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Allow time to
persons who show good faith toward complying
·
Rarely see
violations last more than a few days
·
Do not have the
authority to impound a vehicle
·
Majority of
violations are students that live near campus
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No standards for
how much gravel or stone
·
Consider
overgrown gravel areas to be an improved surface
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Overall, this
system is more streamlined than Ellettsville’s
Ellettsville’s
parking ordinance:
·
Also driven by
complaints
·
Wordy ordinance
and somewhat confusing, needs simplified
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No provisions for
existing subdivisions, should be reworded and perhaps lumped into simply
single-family, two-family and multi-family districts, like
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Requires Planning
and Zoning Administrator to send out four to five letters per confirmed
violation, which is work-intense
·
Requires
expensive certified letters on three of letters
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Requires several
fines to be issued, rather than one single fine
·
Requires
impounding vehicle, which could be against State Law if the vehicle runs
Jeff
gave copies to the Council of Bloomington’s City Code chapter 20.06.02.05
Location of Parking Spaces which states in Single-Family Districts parking is
prohibited on lawns. He stated the
parking issue is taking too much of his time and he feels he needs to work on
other planning and zoning issues such as subdivisions that are more
pressing. He also needs to work on
updating information packets for the BZA and Plan Commission, therefore, he has
came up with proposed amendments to the parking ordinance to try and streamline
this issue to free up his time to work on those things.
Proposed
amendments:
·
Should implement
that a ticket will be issued, rather than sending out certified letters
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Should allow for
adjacent single-family properties to share a driveway and thus, removing the
requirement for a five-foot setback in those cases. We already allow shared driveways without
setback requirements for two-family residences
·
Should send gross
violations (those that refuse to cooperate) to Mike Spencer for an official
warning letter
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Should have a
limit of how much front yard and rear yard can be graveled
·
Remove standards
for type and amount of gravel required (Ellettsville is a blue-collar
neighborhood and a lot of people can not afford the extra expense)
·
Allow gravel or
stone areas, overgrown or not, to be considered an improved surface. This can be done by removing the standard
noted above
·
Require vehicle
parking on improved surface – gravel, stone, concrete or asphalt
Lisa Creech asked
Sandra Hash said he charged $125.00 per hour. She pointed out that the Clerk’s Office holds
and collects the ticket fees that the
Lisa Creech said she agreed with removing the five foot setback
to allow a shared driveway, but she was concerned about idea of removing the
standards for gravel amounts and types.
She doesn’t want to be vague about that issue.
Dennis Williamson asked how the ordinance could be worded to cover
existing subdivisions, specifically for Driveway Standards (Section 152.226). He also asked if he had researched any of the
existing subdivisions and if there were requirements in their original
Covenants and Restrictions.
Jeff York said he believes a new section should be added to the
ordinance or included within the guidelines for new subdivisions when
remodeling is planned in existing subdivisions and the whole thing
simplified. He said according to what
revisions the Council decides will determine whether driveways in existing
subdivisions are to be gravel or paved.
He said yes, within existing subdivision their Covenants and
Restrictions give guidelines for paved driveway standards. The Town could legally issue permits to allow
a person to have a gravel driveway even if it’s in conflict with their
Covenants and Restriction but the property owner would be in jeopardy from
their neighborhood association for violating their Covenants and Restrictions
which is no concern of the Town’s, that is a civil matter. He added
William Evans asked if most violators have been cooperative and
complied.
Jeff York said most have been.
He said he’s sent out approximately twenty letters roughly half to
Public Comment:
Don Fisher for the last two and half years this has been a
problem that the Town Council didn’t want to hear this issue except for Lisa
Creech and has never been addressed publicly until now. He knows a lot of things have been dumped on
Jeff York since he came on board, he knows he can’t possible solve all of the
Town’s issues by himself. He said
parking in no parking areas is a “behavioral problem” that citizen’s feel is
acceptable because no one ever enforces the penalties on violators. He said this behavior can be lived with but it’s
getting worse and brings down property values.
He doesn’t agree that grass growing over gravel is an improved surface
as was stated earlier. You need
retaining walls for gravel and uniformity.
He thinks the Town needs to look at the esthetic and practicality of
this issue. He suggested running an ad
in the Journal for sixty days that driveways and parking will be enforced, then
after that the Town needs to start taking action. It’s everybody’s responsibility to keep the
Town nice, not just Jeff’s. He thinks it
causes problems when the complainant’s name is given out to the person who has
the problem and doesn’t think it should be given out. He thinks issues should be resolved within
the law and within a timely fashion. He
wants the community to get along and have pride in the Town.
James Wagner agreed with Don Fisher’s comments and believes there
should be some standards for driveways. He suggested phrasing the sections in Ellettsville’s
parking ordinance concerning existing subdivisions by saying these standards
are all inclusive of existing, new and non-residential areas. He said for thirty-eight years a parking
ordinance has been in place by the Town and hasn’t been enforced and doesn’t
want to see another thirty-eight years go by and nothing done still. So we need to fix it today so its not a problem tomorrow.
He doesn’t like the several letters process like Jeff, that’s too time consuming. One
ticket seems like a better system.
Kathy Wagner said this is a small town and people talk when someone
complains about problems, in fact, she’s had a dead bird in her mailbox after
reporting violations. She thanked the
Council for letting her and the public have the opportunity to voice their
opinions on parking issues and how to enforce them. She thinks if someone has a gravel drive they
need to maintain the gravel and not let the grass grow up through it. If this ordinance clears up the problem where
people permanently park their cars on the lawn to the point where its just dirt
then she is all for the ordinance.
Larry Hash agreed there are problems with driveways but thinks a
homeowner should get a sixth month notification, then if not corrected a second
notice, give them eighteen months. There
are new homeowners with kids moving in to his neighborhood (
Jeff York said Larry’s comments were good and agreed more time
should be given. He’s spoken with the
City of
Lisa Creech said it shouldn’t be limited to just neighbors
complaining that would be unconstitutional.
Mike Spencer should be consulted on an appropriate time frame. A hardship clause would be a good idea, but
who would decide what is and isn’t considered a hardship, possibly they should
go before the BZA. She asked why parking
on the street was eliminated years ago in the first place.
Jim Davis said the biggest reason the Council issued no parking
on the streets years ago was because particularly in
Lisa Creech said if the parking was changed to allow parking on
one side of the street the Town might get immediate compliance from people to
not park in their lawns. However, it
might be a blessing or a curse to have one side parking according to each
neighborhood; it might need to be looked at on a neighborhood by neighborhood
basis. In the old ordinance it included
a clause to allow parking on the street for special occasions, but the person
should inform the Police Department and/or neighborhood of the occasion. She feels this should be added back into the
new ordinance. Maybe a person could be
dedicated within neighborhoods to be a contact person for health and safety and
parking issues for the public if they didn’t feel comfortable contacting the Council. She added if we use the ticketing system,
maybe the Police Reserves could help issue them which would help out Jeff. She suggested a public meeting on the parking
ordinance where the public is invited officially in addition to being informed
by the newspaper.
Jeff York stated Mr. Zimmerman was surprised that Ellettsville
didn’t allow parking on the street. He
suggested parking on the street should be reviewed again and include the Fire, Street
and Police Departments in the decision making process.
Street
parking and driveway standards were discussed further as well as how to go
about enforcement.
Phillip Rogers said people paying their taxes and mortgages should not
be harassed about their properties. A
lot of people work hard for what they have and maybe in their eyes their
property looks fine. He’s all for making
the Town look nice but agreed with Larry saying there’s enough problems without
looking for more problems, so no one should be driving around looking for more violations. We’re going to go overboard and you can’t
shove rules and regulations down people’s throats, we have to be fair. Several agreed this is supposed to be a
community and neighbors should help neighbors out when they can.
Sandra Hash stated in the past if a homeowner went out of town
the neighbor mowed the grass to be nice because it was the neighborly thing to
do. People need to work out their own
problems instead of making it a governmental control issue; it’s becoming a
“tattle-tale system”.
Phillip
Rogers and Lisa Creech discussed what is fair and equal.
William Evans stated common sense and compassion needed to be used
in these cases.
Rosetta Hudson suggested if a person is considering buying property
in a nice neighborhood to check the Covenants and Restrictions prior to
purchase and if they can’t maintain that property then they shouldn’t purchase
it.
Dennis Williamson said people need to have respect for their selves and each
other and respect for their and others properties.
Patrick Stoffers closed by thanking
everyone for their helpful comments and said the Council will contemplate how
to resolve the issues discussed tonight and encouraged continued public
input.
The
subject of anonymity on complaints taken was discussed.
Adjournment
William
Evans made a motion to adjourn. Phillip
Rogers seconded. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at