The
Ellettsville, Indiana,
Roll Call: Members
present were Patrick Stoffers, President; William Evans, Vice President; Phillip
Rogers, Lisa Creech and
Supervisors Present:
Approval of the minutes
William
Evans made a motion to approve the minutes for the regular meeting of
Action to Pay Accounts Payable Vouchers
Lisa
Creech made a motion to pay the Accounts Payable Vouchers. William Evans seconded. Motion carried.
Proclamation for the Exchange Club
Lisa
Creech read the Exchange Club Proclamation in its entirety stating child abuse
is a serious and growing problem. The
Exchange Club of Ellettsville, through its support of parent aide programs,
parenting classes and community service activities, is making significant progress
in stopping this crime. The Ellettsville Town Council hereby proclaims the
entire month of April shall be observed as Child Abuse Prevention Month and
urge all citizens to use this time to better understand, recognize and respond
to this grievous problem.
Lisa
Creech made a motion to adopt the Exchange Club Proclamation making the entire
month of April Child Abuse Prevention Month.
William Evans seconded. Motion
carried.
Dennis
Williamson announced the Exchange Club meets on the second and fourth Tuesday
at the Mexican restaurant. The meeting
is open to the public and it is “Join the Exchange Club” month.
Animal Shelter Inter local Agreement for
Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 between Ellettsville and
Patrick
explained this has been discussed briefly in previous meetings with the
Additional Appropriations. This is an
agreement for Animal Shelter services with
William
Evans made a motion that we adopt the Animal Shelter Inter local Agreement for
Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 between Ellettsville and
Ordinances on First
Ordinance 06-08 Annexation of White Oaks
(Peters Property 4.07 Acres)
This
is being tabled by the request of the owners of the annexation area.
Ordinances on Second
Ordinance 06-07 Zoning Change for
Frank Nierzwicki, Director of Planning Services, requested outline plan
approval for zoning change on
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Providing
emergency access to the east
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Filing for Rule 5
permit for erosion control
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In the process of
design
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Mailboxes will be
relocated
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Utilities on site
will be underground
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Sims agreed to
widen
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Agreement to
sidewalk connectivity as indicated in the Town Ordinance
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Platted easement
along the south eastern portion of the property
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Capitol Avenue
Apartments have been proposed, discussed and fall within the guidelines of the
C-3 zone at a density much less than prescribed
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The site will
maintain a minimum of 100 parking spaces
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They have met
with neighbors, Town Officials, State Reviewers and Independent Utility
providers
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The Sims are
content to commit to the conditions as presented to the Plan Commission
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The plan
presented has received a significant level of review by a wide range of
individuals
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The Sims propose
to construct a project consistent with the goals of the ordinance
Dennis Williamson asked if the stone marker will be moved. Bernie is hoping to avoid moving the business
sign.
Doug Norton reiterated this is a sensitive issue. There are two points of view; the Sims desire
to develop this property for financial gain and all the good people who want to
improve their property. This property is
unique to the Town with its country like feeling. He described what he thinks initially
happened; there was a piece of property beyond the highway fringe that was
zoned C-3 that should not have been.
Along SR 46 there are businesses of all types. At some point he feels we failed when this
property was zoned C-3 rather than R-1.
He understands that legally “we have brought a knife to a gun
fight”. There is a right and wrong
place for everything. This is the right
place to develop, it is a beautiful area to develop but it is the wrong place
to develop 40 apartment units. Presently
there are only six families living in this area. Several times in the past few weeks he has
waited at the end of
Dan Swafford would like another way in and out instead of just an
access for emergency vehicles. He was
told this was not feasible but a good reason was never given. Is there not enough room? Is it too expensive? The traffic is going to be horrible. He asked
Ronnie Harth has reviewed the minutes and list of items. He feels the Sims can do what they want with
their property but he would like it reduced.
The traffic is bad and you can get rear ended coming from either
direction. The plans are still coming in
so why would the Plan Commission approve this?
His opinion is the Ellettsville Plan Commission ignored everything the
neighbors said and everything went the Sims way.
Barbara Rowse agreed with what Dan and Doug said. Her main concern is the safety with all the
vehicles added to this development. She
showed The Journal front page story of the Sims development; then she pointed
out a picture of a wreck coming out of
Robbie Bex lives in the back (not on
Chris Sims addressed the concerns.
Jessie Smith reiterated what Mr. Sims said about doing everything
he can to see the concerns of the neighbors.
If this is the case, then why has Mr. Sims lied since the beginning? Why did he get mad and why was he
deceitful? Citizens should not be lied
to in order for others to gain.
Frank Nierzwicki added for the record, there are eleven stipulations
on this development. They have worked
with the neighbors and with the developer/petitioner for many months.
Lisa
Creech asked Frank to clarify emergency roads.
Frank verified there is an emergency access point on the north east side
of the property to be stubbed as an emergency connection to the east connecting
to the Burrell property. It will be a 12
foot asphalt linkage with break away barriers for future connections (trail or
pathway) it is large enough to support emergency vehicles. It will connect to the Burrell property but
not as a road. Lisa said the big issue
is “connectivity”. She agrees there
should be a secondary road for the number of vehicles. Frank does not know how the Burrell property
will be developed but will work with that developer to at least make sure it
has emergency entrance potential.
William
Evans asked if the Utilities and Fire Department were taken to the
property. Frank said there was a
Development Review meeting with the Fire and Street Department. Some corrections were done on the radii in
the area to make sure the Fire Department can get in and out. Rick Coppock was involved concerning the
hydrants. William asked if a site study
was completed from SR 46 going to the south east. He went on to say in the Planning Code there
is a site distance that is defined.
Frank said the site distance is when the driveway permit is permitted;
that is handled through INDOT and not the Town of
Sandra Hash added that she was the no vote at the
William Evans asked how the density on a C-3 zoning compared to
this. Frank said on a C-3 zoning there
could be 17 units per acre. The
difference between a C-3 and a PUD is with a PUD there are negotiations with
the developer on the type of improvements, green space, sidewalks and side
paths.
Ed Bitner, Plan Commission member stated he was not present
when the vote was taken. He was not in
favor of this plan as drawn. He was
scheduled to be out of town for the meeting, Plan Commission members knew he
was going to be out of town, he sent e-mails out voicing his concerns and they voted
on this that night anyway. He would have
voted against it making it 4-2.
Kenneth Rowse has attended every meeting and nothing has been
brought up about security. Mr. Sims says
he will screen everyone who goes into the apartment. Mr. Rowse stated Mr. Sims will “screen the
money”. With that many people there
needs to be security. There can not be
children and neighbors in that kind of habitat.
He would like Mr. Sims to know this is how he feels about security. “If the shotgun means everything than the
shotgun will be it”.
Doug Norton approached the podium again. Anytime there is a business whether it is a
developer or convenience store, there are no guarantees. With the amount of apartments being built in
Chris Sims has talked to the Town Marshal and was assured they
have enough staffing to take care of this project. Lisa Creech questioned if the Marshal
actually said this because she disagrees.
Chris Sims remarked the statistics show Ellettsville has a low crime
rate. Lisa feels the citizens are taking
care of everything on their own. Chris
commented on the government subsidizing statement; it is their intention to
avoid that if all possible. He does not think
it is legal to try and block government subsidized housing. Their lease is extremely strict when it comes
to screening tenants. It is to their
best interest to find the best tenants.
They want to build a quality project.
He will do what he can to keep the building well kept; the tenants live
according to the lease agreement and stay within the guidelines. He feels they are within what they are
allowed to do. He wants a community feel
and not big buildings. This is within
the Town limits and they will do whatever they can to make sure it is done
properly.
Lisa
Creech asked if they have been in discussion with the Burrells or are they in
such a preliminary state. Bernie said
Chris spoke with Flavia Burrell in August and they were discussing what the
uses were for the properties. He has not
heard from Flavia or Tim at all. Flavia
asked Bernie what Chris was doing with his property and that was the last he
heard from her on this project. Sandra
told Lisa she spoke with Flavia and she was not sure if a connecting road would
be feasible for her development. There
is a considerable sink hole somewhere in that area. Flavia did not discuss it a lot but she was
aware of the walking path but was not sure she wants to connect at all being a
little concerned with the traffic herself.
Sandra asked if the path in front of the back houses would support a
road in the future. Bernie is not sure because
anything can happen. His understanding
is one of the ideas is open green space and park like area. He looked at the number of cars leaving at
the peak hours and concurred with Frank 100% on those numbers.
Lisa Creech announced she feels for both sides. She feels for the neighborhood not wanting a
transient type resident area next to their house. But if something fits the zoning and it
complies, then it needs to be there. She
likes hearing there will be a neighborhood association. She agrees you can not prevent government
subsidized housing. Mr. Sims could be
asking for worse; this falls within the parameters of the law so this will
probably be there and we will have to make it work. Communications needs to be opened between the
neighbors and the developer to help in this situation. If you do not like what is going on around
you then you will have to put your house up for sale or learn to live with the
situation. One of her concerns is the
security. We do have a good Police Force
and great Reserve Force and they do the best job they can.
William
Evans agrees with what Lisa said about this being well within the confines of
the Town Code. Doug gives us a good
reason to keep this a PUD rather than C-3.
The Town has a lot more control with a PUD. It is extremely hard for everyone involved to
work together on something like this because you will never come to exactly
what you all want. The best case
scenario is Mr. Sims deserves to develop his property. He does not think the market survey will ever
support that many apartments and that is another reason to keep it a PUD so the
Town has some control over what does goes on later on. William also mentioned the Town will be receiving
five new Reserve Officers increasing the number from 15 to 20.
Phillip
Rogers made a motion to accept Ordinance 06-07 Zoning Change for Capitol Avenue
Apartments from C-3 to a PUD. William
Evans seconded. Motioned carried.
New
Business
Utilities Demonstration
Ed Bitner handed the Council a rolled up newspaper and water
faucet handle. He first spoke of a new
development going in years ago that he opposed due to flooding, what his opinion
was and what was done about it. Then he
empathized with the
Supervisors’ comments
Lisa
Creech made a motion to accept the quote from Maxwell’s for $11,840.00 for the
Utility and Town Hall. Phillip Rogers
seconded. Motion carried.
Patrick
appreciated Mike’s courtesy. Mike said
the furniture should arrive in 3-4 weeks and everyone is invited to come see
it.
Sandra Hash announced the League of Municipal Clerks and
Treasurers annual conference is April 23-27.
Normally it falls on a week when there is not a Council meeting but with
Easter weekend, the conference was moved.
Her assistant, Marion Swindle, will be sitting in for her at the next
Council meeting April 24 and will be covering the office.
Dennis Williamson thanked Jim Ragle and the Street Department for removing
the downed trees from the storms. He was
curious about the number of meetings that have been held in the Fire Department
conference room since it was completed
Lisa Creech apologized for missing the last three meetings. She has been looking for employment in
William Evans announced
Privilege of the Floor – non Agenda
Items
Amy Phillips of the Richland-Bean Blossom Youth Sports League asked
for permission to close Park Street for the Youth Sports kick off April 28 and
29; Friday evening and most of
Saturday. Patrick clarified we have done
this before. William confirmed with the
officers in attendance that it was all right with the
Lisa
Creech made a motion that late in the evening Friday, April 28 through the early
afternoon hours of Saturday, April 29 we allow RBBYS to barricade the roads
adjacent to the ballparks for their Baseball Appreciation Days. William Evans seconded. Motion carried.
Adjournment
Patrick
Stoffers adjourned the meeting at