Proposed Zoning Changes Work Session

February 19, 2008, 6:30 to 8:30 P.M.

Frank Nierzwicki - Frank drew a map on the dry erase board of the area for redevelopment in the downtown area, and he described TIF districts and current zone areas. Development areas were located on the map and the other areas that will feed into the developed areas. He tried to explain how we got to this point today, in a two and half year period.

A TIF is a funding tax increment financing, what we are trying to do with the area within the area will be the TIF area. The assessed value is for 100 units, if we get development to come in and it goes up to 1,000 units, the state will look at the difference, which is 900 units. The town of Ellettsville gets the 900 units to spend on public improvements, sidewalks, street lights, park space, and improvements and development on the old rail line. This lowers your tax rate, but this doesn’t mean we get any more money from the Town to do improvements. It goes to the school corporation; it goes to the state it goes to other places. The whole idea of a TIF is to capture that revenue and it is usually 20 to 30 years and after that time it ends. Then we turn it back over there is a wind fall on this, helps long range planning. Buildings have to be replaced, just like schools; we want to develop a funding mechanism that would allow a new school or a major upgrade in the school corporation to happen. What usually happens, and it happens with our personal income as well. They had to build new schools so the tax rates go up for awhile, then back down, and back up again, depending on when these items are actually paid off. We want this to level out more from a planning perspective to spread out the costs over a long period of time.

Darby McCarthy- We are trying to come up with a master plan to meet our growing new needs.

Jeana Kapczynski- This is a lot to comprehend, to think ahead and plan for the future, but we need a consensus from the people.

Frank Nierzwicki- Any questions to this point?

Carl Thurman- What is the Town benefit with the current proposal? Does the tax increment change from a C3 to a C2?

Frank Nierzwicki- We want to establish one zone, so we would have a better chance for redevelopment with one zone. There isn’t much difference between a C1 to C2 to C3. The difference is between residential and actually multi-family, which are apartments. How much it will affect, up or down, anybody that says anything about taxes in the state of Indiana, doesn’t know what they are talking about, because the Indiana General Assembly are working on that and the politicians will solve all of our problems on our property taxes. What I’m saying is I don’t know and no one knows what your taxes will be like next year. I would think they are going to lower them.

Dan Bohlen- Excuse me, but is it not true that a person could buy one of those parcels that was zoned a C3 and request a C2 change if they saw fit.

Frank Nierzwicki- They could.

Dan Bohlen- So, why do you need to take away the C3?

Frank Nierzwicki- The issue with a C3, and we’ve talked about this, the main difference we have with C2’s and C3’s are the use of automotive gas stations and repair areas in that zone. That is not consistent with our Comprehensive Plan and what we want to do downtown.

Dan Bohlen- I’m all for downtown, everything I’ve own has been put into this town over the past 15 years, I own a piece of Ellettsville. I’m all for the good of Ellettsville, but you aren’t going to do it on my back.

Frank Nierzwicki- We aren’t going to have everyone agree on this, that is why we are having these work sessions. We will have another work session. There is obviously a grandfather clause in the zoning, which allows people to keep their businesses going on what they have right now. The problem you have is when you are trying to see to another owner, that is when we look at the next use for the new owner being different. Now, I’ve looked at the situation, and the one thing I would recommend on this is to have a variance on your business to allow the type of business Carl is interested in. The issue we have is how it’s going to look downtown and I think what Carl is trying to tell me is there will be some cars outside, but they will be trying to get them inside to work on them as soon as they can.

This is industrial zoning in the old Robinson block area. There are actually a number of things that could go in by right, right now. I don’t think the town of Ellettsville would like to see. We could have medium to heavy, dirty, old industry coming into the downtown area. This is not consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, which is what we are trying to follow.

Dan Bohlen- We would like to draw people into downtown Ellettsville Is it attractive to move into downtown Ellettsville, when you cook up an idea that diminishes the value of your property. What does Circle K say when you told them if that property changes hands they have to tear the gas station down?

Frank Nierzwicki- We have not received anything back from them.

Dan Bohlen- I think that is because they don’t think it is worth their time, because what you are trying to do, which isn’t an imminent domain situation, this is a plan based on hopes and dreams not one solid offer, you are looking at 20 to 30 years to make this thing fly. What about the people that have already been here for 20 years? Why do you have to step on me to get to where you want to be here?

Frank Nierzwicki- The issue with stepping on anyone person, we aren’t trying to pick on anyone person.

Dan Bohlen- It kind of feels that way when you are one of them.

Darlyne Sowder- When you talk about grandfathered in and as long as we own the business it can stay what it is, but you see we all built businesses that we want to sell to someone else when we get ready to retire, and I don’t want to sell it as a coffee shop I want to sell it as an automotive parts business, the same as the Anderson’s want to sell their business as a repair business, and what you are saying is we can’t sell it as that business.

Frank Nierzwicki- What if I came up to you and offered you 2 million dollars for your business, would you sell it?

Darlyne Sowder- Yes, for 2 million.

Frank Nierzwicki- I’m not going to have an automotive parts store there.

Darlyne Sowder- Well, that’s fine.

Hard to understand, many people commenting.

Frank Nierzwicki- The issue is money, and I understand that. The issue is trying to make more money when you leave. We are trying to have a climate in this area to bring development. What has happened in the last 20 years without this?

Dan Bohlen- All we have to do then is to go quietly away, and walk away from our business. The very notion of a small business is to build it to sell it.

Darlyne Sowder- You’re not selling the land and the building, that’s not what you are selling, you are selling the business.

No name: This city needs these types of business, where are you thinking about locating these types of businesses?

Frank Nierzwicki- What I’m working from is the Comprehensive Plan, and the CP was set out 5 years ago and it was just renewed last year, on what the guiding principles are supposed to be. I wasn’t here at the time when the community decided this is what they wanted downtown. They wanted to have a trail, park land, open space, with this area being a tourist type of businesses. If you look to the East we have a lot of defacto zoning anyway, we have a lot of different things clustered around them; we’ve had doctors’ offices, dentist offices, retirement center in one area, with now financial person, and a lot of car repair, which is very consistent in the use of state road 46. We hope to one day have a Town Hall in the downtown area. We are trying to develop an identity downtown.

Dan Bohlen- So you are going to take away mine, to establish yours, is that what you are saying?

Frank Nierzwicki- No, what I’m saying is we are trying to have more redevelopment in the area to get more investment coming into the area.

Carl Thurman- I get the feeling that automotive, isn’t wanted in the downtown area? With all due respect Frank, I think if you gave this a chance you could attract a lot if it is marketed properly, and tastefully done it could be a big asset, and what my goal is to come in with a whole classic car thing. I think it would attract “cruise ins” that would give the back in time feeling. Automotive repair is something that is a part of everyday life. You are taking the very parcel that I want to buy and take its C3 rating away.

Frank Nierzwicki- Say Dan sells his shop to you, and you invest a lot of money for rehab, and you are next to houses, that go C3, they can have a junk yard in, C3 in Ellettsville, is wide open, a number of different uses. It’s the use not the person that we are concerned about. It comes down to money, many people talking, hard to understand. Is it the building or your clientele and the service you provide?

Dan Bohlen- This is completely irrelevant to me as compared to the angle of my property is worth so much per square foot zoned C3, when it goes to C2, it takes a dramatic reduction in value. I don’t understand how it is possible how you can arbitrarily change a zoning in an effort to drive a business out of town, without any compensation what so ever.

Frank Nierzwicki- That’s not quite what we are doing.

Too many talking, couldn’t understand.

Russ Ryles- The issue on this is much bigger. What economic model is this built on? And clearly this is built on outsiders we haven’t identified yet, coming in and making money off this property. We have a town that has survived. They have a viable economic small business, the life blood of Ellettsville. I can’t understand why we are trying to drive a small business out of this area, when this is the only thing that has stayed with us and stuck through this and is viable to the future.

Darby McCarty- What keeps the town viable is Smithville. Not individual small business owners. I have lived her long enough to see a lot of small businesses that now can’t compete, and their families were not interested in keeping them going. It’s Bibee Stone, Cook, and I’m not discounting individual businesses, but what keeps us viable is that we are a bedroom community to Bloomington.

Evelyn Ryles- I think the biggest problem is you want to eliminate some of the things included in C3 that are not advantageous to tourist and some of the things and the trial, the problem is not going from C3 to C2, but needing to revise C3 to where it eliminates the things that you do not want to have in that area. Or to have another classification that allows for some of the things that are useful that is good that is there and eliminate some of things that we don’t want there.

Frank Nierzwicki- and the issue on this is I’ve been dealt these cards. We could have a downtown overlay. What that does is limit different types of uses in downtown and that would be overlaid over the zoning which is downtown, that will take time. People may not believe this, but I’m interested in the well being of the business and the people long term. I’ve been working with the Redevelopment Commissioners for two years and they have been pushing to have some movement. How do we know anything is going to happen, that’s why we are trying to make some movement. I more than willing to work with you, but we need to know when we do this that we are working together on trying to get a better downtown. We can go different directions on this, it will take a lot of time and we are going to have to have more meetings, and what happens is people finally get involved, when they see that they are getting personally involved. We have been trying to talk about this for the last two years. We’ve had this in the newspaper for two years; we’ve been trying to get people involved. We finally hit a nerve and finally have some involvement. We need to stay the distance. I hope you stay with us as we go to these meetings. It is for the long haul. If we want to go ahead and change downtown and improve it I’m all for it and we can change the direction somewhat, but I need to know we have people on board to actually go to these meetings.

Dan Bohlen- You can let me off the bus as soon as you give me a fair price; I’m not interested in clear politics. I’m not against what you are trying to do, my issue is simple. I had a transaction in process, before I was ever aware of this issue and if you wreak it, I could kill and I’ll fight as long as I have to. I’ll throw up friction, I’ll come to these meetings, and I’ll be a thorn in your side for as long as it takes to get a variance to carry through this transaction.

Frank Nierzwicki- That’s fine. The one thing I’ve found is that people from Ellettsville tell you how they feel. The issue that we have here is I can’t grant a variance myself. I can’t say yes or no, I can make recommendations. It is the BZA that actually makes that decision. I can make an argument or a case for certain ways, that I see it from planning. I will work with you guys to keep your business transaction going, but I can’t guarantee you that.

Dan Bohlen- I don’t have enough confidence in you to allow you to do that, so I guess the next meeting I’ll be attending will be a planning and zoning meeting. I’ll have to get educated on what is the due process that must exist for me to appeal.

Darlyne Sowder- When you say none of us got involved over the past two and a half years, I think the reason none of us got involved I don’t think any of us dreamed that anyone could come in and take away what we have bought, which is what you are trying to do.

Frank Nierzwicki- No,

Too many talking

Darlyne Sowder- We bought property, built a building, and I didn’t think anyone could come in and tell me all of a sudden that I couldn’t do that anymore. This is the zoning I had, and I thought it would be that forever.

Frank Nierzwicki- We are not taking this is a rezoning. The issue is the land value increasing or decreasing, the issue we are trying to do with the rezone is to have the opportunity to have development come in and the value to go up. What it comes down to, if you are concerned about your business and you want that business to stay the same for your grandson or next generation, that is fine, but if you are interested in the money, what is more important. If someone gives you more money, and they are going to change the use of the land are you interested in keeping the use or the money.

Dan Bohlen- I’m just interested in getting paid Frank, and when you are ready to pay me, I’m gone.

Frank Nierzwicki- What we are trying to do is get the value of the property and the business in that location will be worth more money. I’m not an old timer in Ellettsville, I don’t know what the property values are in Ellettsville, and I can imagine that they have gone a little stagnant. They may have gone up somewhat since the highway has come through, but the area downtown, hasn’t changed much, and I haven’t seen that much improvement in the last 10 to 20 years.

Russ Ryle- We are debating apples and onions. You are concentrating on property value and the business owners see a much broader picture and it boils down to what is the impact on the future value, that’s what it boils down to and there is a large negative impact that could befall the future value of the current owners perceive of their property today, I would like to see a developer come in, but it’s not going to put the money in the pocket these guys need for their lives work, because it doesn’t therefore although legally, I can see you aren’t taking things away, you are taking things away, you are taking away the way people of Ellettsville survive and have done for years, the flavor of the community. We talk about our friendly little town, and maintain the lifestyle our grandfathers lived, to simpler times. These guys are the closest thing to it. I don’t this goes along with the historic wishes of Ellettsville and especially the lifestyle of Ellettsville, because if you bring in these tourists you have turned the lifestyle and the environment on its ear and it becomes another Nashville, French Lick or West Baden, it’s not Ellettsville.

Frank Nierzwicki- This comes back to the issue of change, and you are talking about going back to grandfather days and other things. The good old’ days were not always so good. Frank discussed the depression years. This town will change, and it isn’t the same when the railroad came in other businesses came in and others left. When the roads and highways come in things changed, things are going to constantly change. I’m not saying that is good or bad.

Dan Bohlen-Changes are made by economic forces based on free market they are not changed by someone that comes up with the idea of transforming downtown Ellettsville into a tourist destination, well let’s first go in and take these commercial properties and pull their zoning so that we can rid of them as soon as possible and then well hope someone will come in and put in a basket shop or a tea shop or something like that. If we are sitting here talking about selling limestone, which is what we are talking about, we have Cook, we have a park, if someone wants a bed and breakfast, bring it on, but where do you draw the connection between where you have to take from me to draw in an atmosphere like that. If we were surrounded by bed and breakfast and factory shops and they were crowding available real estate, I would happily go away, because they would pay me the value of what I have. You can’t take that away and give me nothing in return.

Too many talking

Darby McCarty- What would you take for your property?

Dan Bohlen- I would take $200,000 right now.

Darby McCarty- And that is the business, property, everything?

Dan Bohlen- Yes.

Hard to hear, several comments being made.

Darby McCarty- There aren’t any stores in the downtown area, because our forefathers didn’t look ahead, were playing catch up. You have to draw a line and figure out what you are going to do and try to have minimal damage. As things grow you will have some similar businesses, because people see a niche. We have a lot of automotive supply stores and O’Reiley’s just opened up.

Very hard to hear.

Evelyn Ryle- He has a unique building.

Darby McCarty- We have a lot of unique buildings.

Too many talking.

Darby McCarty- You can’t tie it to a building, like Bloomington, where you can’t tear anything down.

Frank Nierzwicki- The issue too is, when you look at it is a garage. I see different opportunities. I see it as a garage theme for different types of businesses and that sells in a lot of different places.

Dan Bohlen- Make me an offer.

Frank Nierzwicki- I know, what I’m trying to say is there are retro uses for some of these buildings, that would be very productive and progressive.

Dan Bohlen-And we’ve got one, and it is already in the works. It was already designed like this before we ever began this.

Darlyne Sowder- I understand that you are wanting to change the downtown; we’ve got empty buildings sitting, that nobody will buy. That is to me is where you should be concentrating to do something with that. She discussed various properties that need to be dealt with.

Frank Nierzwicki- I think we are headed in that direction. What do you think the Redevelopment Commission should do?

Darlyne Sowder- Well, I don’t know what the Redevelopment Commission should be doing, but I don’t see them coming in and changing an existing viable business. They have an existing viable business, could they move down the highway, of course they could, but that is not what you are suggesting they do, you are suggesting that when they get ready to sell their business it become something else. She discussed zoning classifications.

Frank Nierzwicki-We want to have many shops open at the same time, to give it a destination for people to go to. People have different buying habits. Internet shopping has changed things. We need to be trying to get people to shop in Ellettsville as compared to shopping on E-Bay, online or in Bloomington. We have 10,000 people that live in this area.

Carl Thurman- My goal to attract people to downtown Ellettsville is to be a service related, downtown service appeal, right here. It would have to pull people from car clubs all over southern Indiana and the Tri-state area that would have people commuting to this area. Now, I’ve been told by an Engineer that I should be concerned about the flooding issues in downtown Ellettsville, so I’ve given that a lot of thought, but since I’ve got a stone building I can squeegee the water out, and the cars are insured. If this is converted to a restaurant or a store you’re going to have 1,000 of dollars in insurance claims, expensive insurance, soaked carpets, clothes and food kept safe, since the threat of flooding is there, so the C3 just appeals to me. I like that being a C3 for what I want to do with my business and the people I’m trying to attract to downtown. I think it has all of the good makings for this.

Frank Nierzwicki- I’m looking at options at trying to get some of these ideas on the table to talk about I think we’ve had really good ideas that have been shared with us tonight. This is going to be an ongoing discussion; it isn’t going to end tonight. We need to get more input, and I think the issue comes down to money. It comes down to money.

Anderson - I think Carl is right that you have to have a service that you offer. I remember when we had a drug store next to us, but when CVS built it’s no longer there. What’s to keep a small business in downtown Ellettsville, if we get a Super Walmart built over here?

Frank Nierzwicki- We went ahead and had a survey done a year ago, the top item that people wanted was a Kroger’s. Another item they wanted good family restaurants. We have to build on success and have our niche, whatever that will be, maybe it is going to be Carl’s retro cars and other things, we may have people from St. Louis and bringing their cars in, is there an ice cream place?

Anderson- What we need is a bed and breakfast or a hotel.

Russ Ryles- Those businesses and your basket shops folks have to have revenue almost every day of the year, you can’t have a tourist based business for fair weather and sunny skies, and you have to have a financial model, one like Carl’s. He can care less if it rains. He’s inside fixing cars. You are also going to be competing with every other town in southern Indiana. The idea of a small retail shop is over 10,000 square feet and that is incompatible in this area and you’re trying to bring in businesses in this area that are incompatible with the flood plain. And in the process you still have 6 to 8 businesses here that are viable and may be viable for some time to come and you’re willing to throw them out or force them out or plan to get out because you are trying to bring people in from out of town with no roots no commitment to the community. All they see is a profit, and if they don’t see a profit they are gone, they come in their idea of bringing in development to this area, plus they want tax abatement, as a strategy to make money.

Frank Nierzwicki- How many people go to Walmart? If no one went to Walmart it wouldn’t prosper, people go there because the prices are low. And that is what the economy is based on, if you can build a better widget for a cheaper price, provide a better service, and produce a quality item. You can have a low cost and forget high quality, but you have to find your niche in the market place to be able to do that.

Russ Ryles- You have to consider the people attached to this economy. 20 to 50 years ago and man could work with his hands and make enough money, today we are a day labor economy. You don’t have the income base in this community to support the businesses you want to bring in; they don’t have the disposable income.

Frank Nierzwicki- Things are changing. Things get a little too personal on where we are going on this. I think we need to focus on what we want to do, and I think the idea that most of us want here is to improve Ellettsville, now there are a lot of different ways of doing this, not just one way. I’ll be more than happy to listen to you and work with you on trying to do this, but we need to work together and try to be productive.

Dan Bohlen- I thought that was what I was doing.

Too many talking, can’t understand.

Dan Bohlen- I had real plans and you know I never took my eye off improving this property for the benefit of downtown Ellettsville. Finally, after a number of years managed to find someone, and as soon as I’m ready to pull the trigger on this deal you tell me….

Frank Nierzwicki- Made a comment about where Dan Bohlen had found Carl Thurman to purchase this property.

Dan Bohlen- I refuse to have this turned on me, that I don’t care about anything good for downtown Ellettsville. Everything I’ve done is to make Ellettsville a better place. I have a nine year old son. We are moving in a positive direction. We don’t need your direction and we aren’t working against you, leave us alone.

Jeana Kapczynski- What are you wanting to see in downtown Ellettsville? Something positive.

Dan Bohlen- I didn’t engage in this process, I was drawn into it. I’m not the one that should say what should happen to downtown Ellettsville. What about Bibee Limestone carving symposium, why aren’t we marketing that? We’ve got the state park, Hilly Hundred, Fall Festival, you have enough to have a bed and breakfast, and you don’t have to take anything away from me to do that.

Jeana Kapczynski- Those are promotional things, tell me something physical that can be done to Ellettsville.

Carl Thurman- Talked about classic cars and social events, if we create a little town, where people can go back in time, where they can come here and go to a sock hop or ball room dance or something like that to attract people. You would have TV stations and reporters coming to Ellettsville to film this parade of classic cars.

Dan Bohlen- Why can’t you do any of these things without taking away my C-3 classification? Why don’t you give me a direct answer for that?

Jeana Kapcynski- Does anyone else have any comments on what we can do to make Ellettsville look better?

Russ Ryles- I think you should give this man a direct answer. Let’s quit talking around it, he has spent his time and deserves an answer.

Too many people talking all at once hard to pick up comments.

Frank Nierzwicki- I’m thinking about bringing a speaker in.

Russ Ryles- The question is, is do we need Redevelopment in this form. We have a very viable business community, small business community…

Frank Nierzwicki- Do we have a viable downtown?

Too many people talking all at once hard to pick up comments.

Russ Ryles- We’ve got a bird in the hand, now I don’t know how many you have in the bush, the way the economy is going, I would think twice before I ran the birds out of the bush.

Evelyn Ryles- I know we want to have nice businesses downtown with some craft people this type of business with the antique cars is a craft, though he has to be careful not to add to the problems with the creek and pollution. We need to modernize the zoning; you have a problem here with C-3 including all of these things that are not useful. We almost need more than one type of C.

Frank Nierzwicki- That is a good point, some areas have up to 10 differing zones, the issue comes down to we are still going to have these gentlemen talking about the different points. If we have a C1-2-3-4 with different use, he’ll be looking at the most highest use, because this issue is on resale. That issue is right; I think we are still going to come back to the same issue again.

Russ Ryles- If you want to downgrade the use of property, the first thing you do is get appraisal of what a C3 compared to a C2 is and part of the downgrade, you being the Town write these gentleman the check that’s what it boils down to.

Frank Nierzwicki- The issue on this is, in my opinion, that this is not a taking.

Too many people talking all at once hard to pick up comments.

Russ Ryles- Your opinion isn’t worth much in the bank.

Dan Bohlen- I respect your opinion, but when your opinions have a severe economic consequences for me as an individual I don’t have any choice but to fight, so we can fight for as long as we have to fight and I’ll fight you where ever we need to. But I don’t have any choice, I can’t go back to my family and tell them that I gave in and got tired of going to the meetings, I didn’t want to worry about what the laws are. If I have to go out and mortgage me home and go out and get an attorney, that is the kind of guy I am, before I take this kind of hit.

Frank Nierzwicki- That’s ok. The issue on this is I think we need to have a lot more discussion on this.

Carl Thurman- I don’t know can’t we bring closure to it tonight and leave it a C3.

Too many people talking all at once hard to pick up comments.

Evelyn Ryles- He doesn’t have the power to do that.

Frank Nierzwicki- Part of this you don’t understand is the process, and that isn’t your fault. I can’t grant variances, I can’t exclude some things. This is the Plan Commission, and the Redevelopment Commission. I am staff. I’m the face on all of this that you people see and actually complain to and that is part of my job and I understand that. But, I can’t make some of these decisions.

Evelyn Ryles- They were voted on by the Council.

Dan Bohlen- You make decisions that go that way, but your unable to make a decision on what you are justifying and taking away what we already have and we’ll go to the Planning and Zoning Appeals I have to do whatever I have to do. I’m not working against what you are trying to do. I’m only trying to defend what I rightfully have and have paid for and worked for. You say you have the power to take, but you don’t have the power to give back.

Evelyn Ryles- It was already done by Council, they are for it. They voted for it, Frank makes recommendations, but they have to vote on it again.

Dan Bohlen- I’m not going to negotiate with you on this, I’m going to maintain my position, all I want is what I already have. We have to deal with this.

Frank Nierzwicki- Any last comments, we need to wrap up.

Darlyne Sowder- Going back to the November 15^th meeting, of the Redevelopment Commission, at that time it said Frank had discussed the zoning changes of R1 to C2, this area will be tourist destination. Frank noted with this zoning no additional gas stations or auto repair stations will be allowed. The long term goals were discussed. It also says that the people would have an option, so when you talk about changing the zoning we would all be willing to voice our options. We would all be willing to have an option you would be willing to give that option, right?

Frank Nierzwicki- What we were talking about on options on that is changing the philosophies of different zoning. Not giving individual options to people.

Darlyne Sowder- Since you won’t allow any “new” ones to come in, that’s fine, so if you don’t want an auto repair business then don’t allow anymore in town, make it so no more can come in, but this one is here, and this one should stay here.

Frank Nierzwicki- And that is what the grandfather clause is.

Darlyne Sowder- Until he gets ready to sell it he can’t sell it.

Frank Nierzwicki- Ok. We don’t know if he can’t sell it, because we don’t know.

Darlyne Sowder-But it can’t be that kind of business anymore.

Bob Sowder- I look at it that a C3 is more valuable than a C2. Even if you aren’t selling your business, just as a property, you will get more bang for your buck selling it as a C3.

Dan Bohlen-Absolutely. Clapping.

Frank Nierzwicki- I don’t have anything else for tonight. Meeting Ended.

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