May 6, 2010
The Ellettsville, Indiana Plan Commission met in
regular session on Thursday, May
6, 2010 in the Fire Department Training and Conference Room located
at 5080 West State Road
46. Dan Swafford called the meeting to
order at 6:00 p.m. with the
Pledge of Allegiance.
Roll Call: Members present were: Dan Swafford,
Ron Wayt, Don Calvert, Phillip Rogers, Clayton Sullivan, Phillip
Smith, and Sandra Hash.
Connie Griffin Director of
Planning Services was also present.
Approval of the Minutes – April 1, 2010
Dan Swafford entertained a motion for approval
of the April 1, 2010
minutes. Phillip Smith so moved. Clayton Sullivan seconded. Motion carried.
Monthly
Conflict of Interest Statement - None
announced.
Old Business
Assembly of
God Site Development Plan, State
Road 46 (Vacant lot next to the Fire Station) – (Rick Coppock) 0092074000, 53-04-14-100-025.000-013
Connie
Griffin, Planning Director – introduced and explained the plan.
The new plans have the road corrections as requested at the previous
meeting.
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10 Acre Site
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This property has
been owned by the church for several years and we are proposing a new building
and parking lots – front and back.
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The structure
will house the congregation, classrooms and gym facilities.
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Detention and water
quality treatment will be provided in the area between where the existing drive
is off of SR 46 and the Fire Station parking lot.
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The current
landscaping along SR 46 will remain in place with no grading taking place where
those existing trees are. Rick Coppock wanted to make sure it was stated that
the street trees will be required along the new section of the road as well as
sidewalks on both sides of that.
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There will be
another water quality pond to accept the runoff from the front parking lot
parallel to SR 46 in the southwest corner of the property.
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This is a C-3
zone which allows this use but it is up against a different zoning designation
therefore the set-back must be doubled.
They are actually going to provide close to 80 feet. That was done to save some of those existing
mature trees and will screen the site from the Autumn Ridge subdivision.
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Sanitary sewer
will also be provided and the water line will be looped through the property to
Autumn Ridge.
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The road
connection won’t affect the building site, but there will have to be some
adjustments to the site plan to swing the road over to tie it to the road
that’s already there.
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After completion,
the road will be turned over to the Town for maintenance. There will be sidewalks required as well.
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The
building/project site will be built in phases.
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The church will
have to complete the public improvements or they will have to bond for the road
since it’s a public road in a public right of way.
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The Development
Review Plan Committee met on Wednesday,
March 24, 2010.
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The Town
supervisors discussed the connectivity.
The 2002 Comprehensive Plan showed the connection from Autumn Ridge to
SR 46 as a minor connector collection. The Town supervisors were in agreement
that they wanted to keep the connection. By Town code 153.071 General Design
Considerations, safety is one of the largest concerns of the Fire and Police.
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The connectivity
on 153.074 Extensions of Streets, (d) connectivity 1 – except for subdivisions
of ten lots or less of connecting streets through to channel traffic easily
from one subdivision to another is required.
Connie Griffin
stated Jon Thomas was present from Bynum Fanyo & Associates to answer any
questions the Commissioners might have.
Jon Thomas, Bynum & Fanyo Associates - Dan Swafford asked if the road goes into the Town’s
property also. Mr. Thomas answered that
it did not. The property corner for the
church creates a triangle and they are dedicating the right of way then through
that particular area. Dan Swafford
inquired whether the setbacks were in place for the property and Mr. Thomas
answered they were. Don Calvert asked if
the church was going to be built in phases.
Mr. Thomas answered that it was.
Don Calvert then asked him to explain the phases. Mr. Thomas stated Pastor Doug Carter might be
better able to answer that question.
Doug Carter, Pastor 1st Assembly of God
Church – answered they were still
working out the negotiations regarding the building and the phases. He would like to put up the superstructure
all at once and then finish the gymnasium portion last. Don Calvert asked to confirm that access to
the garage was only from the church parking lot. He responded that it was. Dan Swafford asked how many days per week
they would be using the facility; do you have a daycare or plan on having
one. Mr. Carter responded that was still
up in the air. They haven’t planned on
it for sure, but that may be a future option we are looking at. But, primarily, we are looking at Wednesdays
and Sundays. There may be small events
and other things going on, but significant gatherings will be on Wednesdays and
Sundays. Dan Swafford asked how many
people were in their congregation. Mr.
Carter answered on an average Sunday they would average anywhere between 400
and 450. There are over 1000 people on
the mailing list. They are probably
servicing, over a week’s period of time, in excess of 600 people. Dan Swafford inquired if they anticipated any
problem of getting out on the highway on Sundays. He replied they would probably have someone,
perhaps hire someone on a part-time basis, to help getting out on the highway. Dan Swafford asked if he planned to complete
the parking lot initially. Mr. Carter
responded he would like to have that completed initially as well.
Frank Nierzwicki, private citizen – asked what the classification of the road going in
is; is it local road or is it a collector.
Connie Griffin answered it
was a minor collector in the thoroughfare.
He also asked how it aligns across the highway. Sandra Hash asked Jon Thomas if he knew the
answer to that question. He said he
thought it was Jack’s Defeat Creek Mall, but he was unsure how it aligns with
the entrance to that mall. He went on to
say the state put the original entrance in.
Frank Nierzwicki continued by saying if, in the future, you were looking
at a traffic light there, the state would consider whether it lined up and
would be beneficial to both sites. Connie Griffin remarked that Rick
Coppock had recently filled out an INDOT permit form for
that, so the process is started just in case it gets to that point. Mr. Nierzwicki then asked if the road would
be built up to the church property line.
Someone answered it would be connected to the top of the property. Phillip Smith remarked someone asked if the
road was going to meet up with Autumn Ridge.
Dan Swafford answered that it
would. Connie
Griffin added that Jason Walls contacted her late this
afternoon and wanted her to pass on information regarding the sidewalks on Harvest Lane which
will be on either side of the road. She
was not able to get back to her office to print that information out and will
be emailing it to Commissioners tomorrow.
Dan Swafford
entertained a motion to approve the Assembly of God Site Development Plan. Phillip Smith so moved. Clayton Sullivan seconded. Roll Call Vote: Dan Swafford
– yes; Ron Wayt – yes; Don Calvert – yes; Phillip Rogers – yes; Clayton
Sullivan – yes; Phillip Smith – yes;
Sandra Hash – yes. Motion carried 7-0.
Landscape Ordinance, Chapter 97 Recommendation of
Ordinance to proceed to Town Council.
Connie Griffin, Planning
Director – stated this was introduced
last month. This code was actually
derived from six or seven other landscape codes. It was disjointed and she remarked she went
over it and re-grouped and streamlined it.
Every community needs a tree and landscape ordinance.
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This ordinance
does not require single-family residentials to produce a landscape site plan,
but it does require anyone to maintain their landscaping.
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There are application
requirements for removing trees.
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There is a $25
fence permit now required.
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Eliminated one
illustration.
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Kept the tables.
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Did get rid of the
design of speed on through roadway majors and minimal site distance
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Added the
bio-retention section of Monroe
County for the parking
lots
Connie Griffin
went on to state the reasons for doing this landscape ordinance. We want to control invasive species, we want
to make sure our community looks attractive, when someone does put landscaping
it is maintained and we establish the procedures to administer and enforce this
code. She pointed out applicability
requirements on page 9 of the document.
The document breaks down the standards into zone requirements beginning
on page 10. There was some discussion
regarding people taking down trees and putting limbs in the street for the
Street Department to remove. Dan
Swafford asked if Connie Griffin had
a copy of the tree removal permit. She
responded those permits were what she would be preparing in the future. Dan Swafford asked if she could put the
requirements in the permit that would require them to remove the debris from
the taking down of the tree. Don Calvert
added there should be something in there to cover acts of God and the fact that
the Town would then be responsible. Ron
Wayt expressed his concern over having to get a permit to remove trees on his
personal property. If someone’s property
is dense with trees and they removed some for visibility and for attaining more
light on an area of their property, he felt they should not have to be required
to replace those trees. Perhaps they
would not have a good, open area to plant them in. There was some additional discussion
regarding this. Dan Swafford stated he
felt this requirement should be removed from the residential property
owner. Connie
Griffin acknowledged this could be done. All Commissioners agreed with this
decision. Dan Swafford stated that this
may not be the venue to bring up the issue with the Street Department, but he
wanted to bring it up for discussion.
Phillip Rogers remarked he had suggested a notice be placed in the paper
regarding what would and would not be picked up. Ron Wayt suggested a tagging system by the
Street Department. They could put orange
tags on the limbs they could tell had been cut, not fallen, and this would
signify to the property owner they would not be removed by the Street
Department. Dan Swafford stated he would
bring this to the Town Council. Connie Griffin then reviewed the Landscape
Development Standards beginning on page 10 of the document. Berms and buffers were also reviewed. This was followed by the fence, hedge and
wall materials and design. Ron Wayt
noted he did not agree with having to pay a permit fee for a fence that would
be improving the property. Dan Swafford
stated he still felt there needed to be a plan submitted to make sure
everything is being done to code. Connie Griffin remarked she did keep it to the same fee
as the driveway fee. Ron Wayt went on to
say he felt it should not be required when you are replacing an existing fence. There was additional discussion on this
matter.
Dan Swafford called
for a five minute recess at this point.
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After the break, Connie Griffin read each point under Fences, Hedges
and Wall-Materials and Design from page 11 and 12 of the document.
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Phillip Rogers
expressed his concern regarding point G, unfinished concrete block walls. He felt this should be removed. There was additional discussion regarding
what was or wasn’t a fence or a wall and what was or wasn’t finished. It was decided to add “unless capped” to the
end of point G.
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Connie Griffin then reviewed permit requirements on page 12. There was discussion regarding the length of
feet of fence in point A. It was decided
to remove “…of less than sixteen lineal feet of a fence” from the end of the
statement in point A.
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Under point C,
Permit Fee, it was decided to add “If permit denied, fee refunded.”
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At this point,
the word “new” was added to point A reading “No person shall install a new
fence…”
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In point D, page
13, “Zoning Administrator” was changed to “Director of Planning or designee”.
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“No fees required
for time extensions requested within the 180 days” was added to point E.
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“…zoning
administrator” was changed to “Director of Planning” in (1) under point E.
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In the section
titled “Existing Fences” on page 13, point A, the wording was changed to read
“…shall not be enlarged or extended except in strict compliance…”
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Page 14, Visual
Clearance Violations, point A, change “zoning administrator” to “Director of
Planning”.
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Point B, change
“zoning administrator” to “Director of Planning” and “demand payment” to
“secure payment”.
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Point C, change
“zoning administrator” to “clerk-treasurer or designee”.
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Point D, remove
“…with interest accruing on the unpaid balance at the rate of seven (7%)
percent per annum” and “…a One Hundred ($100.00) Dollar…” The point now reads “The special assessment
shall be a lien upon the real estate until paid in full. There shall also be an administrative charge
added to the charge and special assessment to cover administrative costs of
charging and specially assessing the property.”
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Point E, “order”
is changed to “decision”, “zoning administrator” is changed to “Director of
Planning or designee”, “Board of Zoning Appeals” is changed to “Plan Commission”, and the final “order” is changed
to “determination”. The statement now
reads “The decision of the Director of Planning or designee may be appealed to
the Plan Commission upon written
notice of said appeal being served upon or sent by registered mail to the
Director of Planning within ten (10) days after the date of the determination.”
Discussion now moved
to “OPEN SPACE”
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In “Landscape
Open Space”, point C, (b) “Lands in a designated floodplain or floodway” was
removed.
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On page 15, “Residential
2 & 3, Commercial 1, 2, & 3, and Industrial 1 & 2” was moved above
“Buffer between Incompatible Uses”.
Russ Ryle, private citizen – expressed a concern regarding the Director of
Planning or their designee going on private property to maintain “visual
clearance” as stated on page 14 of the document. Connie Griffin
responded the citizen would be notified with 30 days. Russ Ryle then asked what her definition of
“visual clearance” was. He remarked that
in regards to the sight triangle, it could be different for people of different
height and the landscaping over the years could change so that what once was
within the acceptable parameters could grow and become a hazard. He stated it needed to be definable and
enforceable. He stated you are creating
a bureaucracy, you are creating paperwork, and you are creating expense. Connie Griffin
stated the parameters for the sight triangle are stated on page 11, under
Buffers/Berms, point E, (1). Russ Ryle
requested these rules be based on public safety. Ron Wayt asked if this is an engineering
question and would there be one set standard set forth by the state. Connie Griffin
responded she would check if there is a state standard. It was decided the illustration would be
re-inserted under “Visual Clearance Violations” showing the sight triangle
standards but based on state standards, if any.
Frank Nierzwicki
complimented Connie Griffin and the
Planning Department on the work put together on this. It’s good to have the architectural and
design standards in. Obviously, the
issue on enforcement is going to be something else again. He said he thought it is a great step if the
Town adopts it. He went on to ask if Connie Griffin had a percentage of green space in
new development. Connie
Griffin responded it was 30%.
She went on to say she and Rick Coppock discussed that and he felt that
was fair. Frank Nierzwicki went on to
suggest letters be sent to area nurseries with the code stating what the new
standards are. Dan Swafford added his
appreciation to Frank’s.
Wireless Communication Facilities, Chapter 152
Recommendation of Ordinance to proceed to Town
Council
Connie Griffin, Director
of Planning – When Mr. Baker was
president, we were at the point where we were ready to approve this code. The only thing we were questioning was
whether to extend the PUD section. This
section is located on page 17, under “Health and safety”, (J) of the
document. The phrase “…except as
accessory uses as specified in Section xxx” will be removed. Connie Griffin
added she has two wireless communication facilities very anxious to see the
code in order to start the application process.
She went on to say she wants to move this code through since they were
at this point when it got dropped last time.
Ron Wayt made a motion to forward the Wireless Communication Facilities,
Chapter 152 Recommendation of Ordinance to Town
Council. Phillip
Rogers seconded. Roll Call Vote: Dan Swafford
– yes; Ron Wayt – yes; Don Calvert – yes; Phillip Rogers – yes; Clayton
Sullivan – yes; Phillip Smith – yes;
Sandra Hash – yes. Motion carried 7-0.
New Business
Jerry and
Norma Abbitt Annexation/Rezone, 0071852001 and state id number
53-04-05-100-010.000-011. Rezone to
Residential 1, single family residential.
Total Acres: 20.21, three Tracts of Land.
Connie
Griffin, Director of Planning – explained that all requirements have been met.
- Petition for voluntary annexation signed on 3/31/2010.
- Jerry and Norma Abbitt live at 6706 N. Starnes Road and have come
before you to voluntarily annex in 20.21 acres of vacant land. The land area has been divided into a
total of three tracts of land.
- The two smaller tracts of land are 2.50 acres and
the larger tract is 15.21.
- A public hearing notice for Plan Commission was
published on 4/14/2010
for tonight's meeting, and to date the petitioner has not received any
questions, nor has the Department of Planning.
- A total of five neighbors were sent certified
return receipt letters, and all have been returned and photocopied for the
annexation file.
- No code violations were observed on the
property. No code violations were
reported by Monroe
County.
- The fiscal plan has been written and submitted to
the supervisors and Rick Coppock for review, as well as a copy to Darla
Brown as an introduction.
Norma Abbitt,
petitioner – Dan Swafford asked about
her plan to subdivide the property into three tracts. Mrs. Abbitt responded she and her husband
have two sons who live out of state and the two smaller tracts are intended to
be given to their sons if they want them.
Dan Swafford asked what the property is zoned as currently. Connie Griffin
responded it is zoned Rural Agriculture by Monroe County
but they wanted to take it to Single Residential – R1. Dan Swafford asked where the town limits are
in relationship to the property. Connie Griffin informed him it was the Early Childhood
Development Center. She went on to show the Commissioners the
property on a map.
Frank Nierzwicki, private citizen – asked what water service will be provided? Connie Griffin
answered it was in the fiscal plan. Mrs.
Abbitt pointed out her house on the map and stated they have Ellettsville water. Behind the Early Childhood
Center there is a water
main which they gave the right of way to the Town to get water for the Fire
Department. Connie
Griffin added the lift station is located at the Early Childhood
Center as well. Dan Swafford
entertained a motion to recommend the Jerry and Norma Abbitt Annexation/Rezone,
0071852001 and state id number 53-04-05-100-010.000-011 be accepted. Phillip Rogers seconded. Roll Call Vote: Dan Swafford
– yes; Ron Wayt – yes; Don Calvert – yes; Phillip Rogers – yes; Clayton
Sullivan – yes; Phillip Smith – yes;
Sandra Hash – yes. Motion carried 7-0.
Planning
Department Updates
Plan Commission ID Badges
Dan
Swafford thanked Connie Griffin for
the badges. This makes everyone look
very professional along with her uniform.
Dan Swafford asked if there was a seal or embossing could be put on the
badges in order to make them look more professional.
I-69 Grant Updates
Connie Griffin stated the green space plan is done, the capital
improvement plan is done, the Ecologic, Inc., Well’s Park inventory is completed. The Five Year Recreation Master Parks Plan
has been revised, updated with new photographs.
There is a Parks survey out now that is repeating the former
survey. They had 56 responses out of
5000 that were mailed. The DNR thought it would be interesting to see if there
had been many changes over the years regarding those responses. She is getting ready to start working on the
Downtown area study. There are some
funds remaining in the grant. She may
see about an extension to look to have an ADA
transition study for the Town of Ellettsville
done.
Grimes Annexation – Mr. Grimes has not contacted her again this
month. The last time she spoke with him,
he mentioned Mr. Clark (the bus tenant) had no documentation of the disposal of
the contaminated soil.
June Plan Commission
June
Plan Commission date is June 10. Connie Griffin will be in Georgia on June 3.
Adjournment
Dan Swafford entertained a motion to adjourn. Phillip Rogers made the motion to
adjourn. Phillip Smith seconded. Dan Swafford adjourned the meeting. The next meeting will be June 10, 2010 at 6:00 p.m.